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This is well meaning but suffers from the usual ambiguous use of "we". If "we" were able to have a productive discussion about where we wanted to go "we" would already have done it. The problem is that the vast majority of "us" are unwilling or incapable of having such a discussion and, even the more enlightened of "us" can't seem to agree on anything of any significance, so the idea that "we" might reach some sort of useful concensus is an intellectual utopianism in itself.

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Great post! Excited for the series. What do you think of the idea that we should be aiming for a Viatopia "all the way down"? Perhaps we should *always* maintain epistemic humility, never giving a non-provisional answer to the Socratic question writ large ("How ought we (the society/cosmos) to live?"), even eons onwards. Perhaps we should aim for a society that is always on-track to become an even better society that is capable of being on-track to become an— . Not sure if this is fully coherent, but the prospect of the world keeping its options always open, always open to evolving, always open to positive paradigm shifts, seems much more attractive than the prospect of the world initially being a Viatopia and then succumbing to what *seemed to it* a grand excellent vision but what is in objective truth a narrow end state (that its benighted condition couldn't fathom to be a narrow pitiable end state).

Also, wouldn't a safe, aligned, general superintelligence be vastly more suited to answering these difficult questions than us humans?

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